OT: cheap colo space in Southern Germany/Munich

[Eugen Leitl]

On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:43:58PM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> I will reply to you exactly once, I do not have any interest in prolonging

Once is too many. *plonk*

> this thread needlessly. That being said, I feel that I speak for a
> significant portion of the subscribers of this list.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Eugen Leitl <eugen at leitl.org> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for accusing me to be a criminal, but not thanks.
> > Shady business, my hairy ass. You should be ashamed of yourself.
> >
> 
> He refuted your point, he did not accuse you of anything.
> 
> If you can not behave in an adult manner, please vacate this list.
> 
> 
> 
> > Try to accusing a bricks and mortars business of that, and
> > enjoy having your ass sued off.
> >
> 
> Irrelevant and a weirdly veiled threat.
> 
> If you can not behave in an adult manner, please vacate this list.
> 
> 
> It might have been clear for years, but there's such a thing
> > as sending a clear message, and ability to plan ahead.
> > Apparently, some hosters are better than others in that
> > respect.
> 
> 
> Correct. Hetzner knows what will come inevitably and they are adjusting
> their business accordingly. Does this suck for a lot people? Yes. Is there
> a way for Hetzner to magically shake IPv4 address space from a tree? No.
> 
> 
> 
> > How do you deal with Google and Amazon as your competitors?
> >
> 
> If you are planning to start a search engine or a social network today, you
> are in for trouble; no matter how many IPv4 addresses you may have.
> 
> 
> What is your workaround for that?
> >
> 
> Compete in markets that are not saturated.
> 
> 
> What do you have to have in order to deal with that?
> >
> 
> I don't understand that question.
> 
> 
> You don't have to answer these, I'm obviously being rhetorical here.
> >
> 
> You are also ranting continuously and you are pushing various off-topic
> and, quite frankly, technically ridiculous issues on a mailing list with a
> relatively clear focus.
> 
> To quote your initial email:
> 
> 
> > Sorry for a lame and way off-topic post, but I'm a bit desperate.
> 
> We get that you are desperate, but that does not make anything you have
> been writing more relevant to this list.
> 
> 
> > I'm in the market for a co-lo rack, half rack, or even quarter
> > of a rack -- must be to bargain-basement prices, offer at
> > least 100 MBit/s dedicated switch port (better 1 GBit/s),
> 
> Try asking actual service providers. Many are subscribed to this list, but
> this is off-topic here. Also, if you want to pay bargain-basement prices
> (Hetzner...), expect bargain-basement service.
> 
> 
> > P.S. Alternatively, how much IP transit space can I get
> > from Level3, Interoute, Cogent, M-net, Core-Backbone, and
> > to which prices?
> --other email--
> > I've looked at LIR pricing, and it's ridiculous.
> 
> As there's no new IPv4 PI space any more, what use would transit be to you?
> Especially since you are unwilling, or unable, to pay for IPv4 addresses?
> 
> 
> Nick Hilliard did a good job of dismantling cjdns, but I would like to add
> that a TUN device is quite useless unless you have a solid network through
> which your TUN devices interconnect. And anticipating that this, or other,
> mechanisms will be widely adopted prior to IPv6 is, quite frankly,
> ridiculous.
> 
> 
> 
> Way too long story short: Even though I can not force you, or anyone else
> on this list, to stop posting, I would ask everyone involved to let this
> thread die. It's been amusing for the peanut gallery for some time, but
> it's not going anywhere and way past annoying.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Richard
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Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> http://leitl.org
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