OT: cheap colo space in Southern Germany/Munich

David Conrad drc at virtualized.org
Sat Nov 24 19:27:06 CET 2012

On Nov 24, 2012, at 6:56 AM, Jens Weibler <jens.weibler at h-da.de> wrote:
> If you want other concepts of address allocation you are free to write a draft. IPv6 has enough space for these kinds for experiments ;)

Given IPv6 is fixed length, it depends on the concept ("my GPLv3-approved anarchic geo-addressing scheme must have an IPv6 /1!") :)

> I'm sure that some companies oder universities will give back parts for their ip space but this doesn't scale.

At US$11/address at current market rates, I'm not so sure...

> Hetzner might be one of the first but many companies will get to this problem and IPv4 will get expensive. Maybe this way we get the pressure (or "business value") needed for a fast(er) IPv6 migration.

Long ago, I used to argue that the RIRs were at risk of wildly distorting the market and thereby hiding the actual cost of continuing to use IPv4 versus moving to IPv6 and thereby delaying IPv6 deployment. At the time, I was accused of trying to destroy the Internet (particularly in ARINland) so I gave up, figuring the tide would eventually come in. 

Unsurprisingly, the tide has actually come in. I expect there to be continued rearranging of deck chairs (to mix metaphors) and much gnashing of teeth ("but it's not fair!") as reality bites harder. Given uneven run out rates at the various RIRs, I suspect things are going to get more "interesting" in political contexts (e.g., the ITU's "Country Internet Registry" proposal for IPv6 will probably get a big boost from the way IPv4 runout has been handled), however, from a technical/operational perspective, I suspect the tipping point for IPv6 has been reached. 

All that's left is the screaming...


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