http://www.6assist.net/ - call for test

[Marcin Gondek]

Hi,

IPv6 is not possible in Poland for end-user. For DSL like me.

Also there no possible to get IPv6 native on my dedicated server on DE.

Also as far I ask some time ago there was no chance to get announce my PI
IPv6 address on DE.

Why PI? Because when I move to another DC, I want to go with my address
together - that's a PI.

Now I not interested how it is now, I'm happy with this situation what I
have.

About PI end-user is not always free, I can even pay for tunneled bgp
session, but there is no such offers. Even if I'm small as I wrote can pay
for good transit and reachability. Who offer that option? For private? NO
ONE.

About downstream, my downstream is using me as backup, peering, and for
mostly test usage, my and my downstream know = no SLA, also my upstream also
doesn't give my any SLA, just best-efford and I happy with that.

Because of this I have more than two upstreams.

No matter of this, my example is:
* to small to be native or even technicaly non-possible
* "big pipe" which provide me native is to expensive for me, networking is
my hobby, also I helping people with IPv6 as somekind evangelist.
* internet is for everyone (PI, ASN, ...), for big as Tier-1 and for small
as me.

Regards,

-- 
Marcin Gondek / Drixter

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeroen Massar [mailto:jeroen at massar.ch] 
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2013 7:50 PM
To: drixter at e-utp.net
Cc: 'IPv6 OPS'
Subject: Re: http://www.6assist.net/ - call for test

On 2013-05-10 19:28 , Marcin Gondek wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> As far it's dedicated for IPv6 PI holder (not always it is a ISP - 
> like me) which are not a transit providers for other than it's own 
> users or usage, the idea from NetAssist is OK.

> I'm really happy that more IPv6 initatives are comming. Today mostly 
> HE taking all tunneled bgp session, it's good to have some alternative 
> and redundancy for IPv6 traffic. Maybe HE will loose monopoly of this

Given the fact that various real transits exist and provide native IPv6, how
exactly are they having a "monopoly"? Especially given when some real
traffic starts flowing like in IPv4 the "freeness" is likely going the way
of the dodo[1] quite quickly

> Happy BGP-tunneled NetAssist user.
> 
> AS56662 (open for IPv6 peering, only tunneled :-))

And what is the reason for it being tunneled?

>From your own aut-num:

remarks:        === This ASN is IPv6 only ===
remarks:        === U P S T R E A M ===
remarks:        INOTEL (PL/PL)
mp-import:      afi ipv6.unicast from AS44514 accept ANY
mp-export:      afi ipv6.unicast to AS44514 announce AS-EUTPNET
remarks:        CDP (PL/PL)
mp-import:      afi ipv6.unicast from AS12968 accept ANY
mp-export:      afi ipv6.unicast to AS12968 announce AS-EUTPNET
remarks:        HE (DE/DE)
mp-import:      afi ipv6.unicast from AS6939 accept ANY
mp-export:      afi ipv6.unicast to AS6939 announce AS-EUTPNET
remarks:        INIT7 (DE/DE)
mp-import:      afi ipv6.unicast from AS13030 accept ANY
mp-export:      afi ipv6.unicast to AS13030 announce AS-EUTPNET
remarks:        DA-NET (DE/ID)
mp-import:      afi ipv6.unicast from AS7587 accept ANY
mp-export:      afi ipv6.unicast to AS7587 announce AS-EUTPNET
remarks:        NETASSIST (DE/UA)
mp-import:      afi ipv6.unicast from AS29632 accept ANY
mp-export:      afi ipv6.unicast to AS29632 announce AS-EUTPNET
remarks:        ===  D O W N S T R E A M ===

Seems you have quite a few transits that are capable of native...

Only announces 2001:67c:21ec::/48

Ah, end-user PI...... yes now we understand, free is good. Hopefully the
free providers you use have a business case they can keep up...

Above you claim "which are not a transit providers for other than it's own
users or usage" while you have "downstreams"... wow.

As stated, for playing/experimenting tunneling is fine, for anything else
you want to go native. You obviously could go native, you likely (and
logically if it is private) don't want to pay for that though.

Greets,
 Jeroen

[1] and as a funny anecdote from a visit to Mauritius, something that
apparently the Dutch caused; interesting that they didn't teach that in
school and you have to either wikipedia it or get told by the limo driver
why they are not there anymore ;)