Greenfield IPv4 + IPv6 broadband deployment

Frank Bulk frnkblk at
Sun Feb 27 03:42:19 CET 2011

It's a bit much, in our customer base, to require a router.


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Mikael Abrahamsson
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2011 6:30 PM
To: Adam Armstrong
Cc: Dan White; IPv6 operators forum
Subject: Re: Greenfield IPv4 + IPv6 broadband deployment

On Sun, 27 Feb 2011, Adam Armstrong wrote:

> That's the plan currently. Purely layer 2 back a couple of very large
> doing layer 3 aggregation. Still deciding on 1:1 or 1:N VLANs.

I recommend against that. I'd do a lot more distributed L3 switch model, 
let's say one L3 switch per 1000 subscribers or so.

If there was such a device, I'd do L3 switch that the customer connects to 
directly, so you never ever need L2 backhaul and all that pain that comes 
with it (duplicate MAC addresses, needing to handle q-in-q on the L3 
device etc).

I'd also require a CPE to do routing so your big devices never have to 
handle all the customer devices and to ND etc with them. ND is very chatty 
and it's a lot of state to keep, lot's of TCAM slots to handle etc. Do 
link-local only to the customer and do DHCPv6-PD only, no DHCPv6/SLAAC at 
all. If the customer doesn't have a CPE that does this then they won't get 
IPv6, only IPv4+NAT.

> My primary issue at the moment is that I can't see a clean way to manage
> static v6 prefixes via DHCP.

I'd say you need the equivalent of option 82 and a DB? I don't know how to 
do this currently though.

Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike at

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