New ARIN ipv6 allocation policies

Doug Barton dougb at
Fri Sep 1 20:21:04 CEST 2006

Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
> On 1-sep-2006, at 7:51, Doug Barton wrote:
>> I'm glad to see that the final wording of this new policy also adopted
>> what I believe is the most sensible criteria, that the end site
>> "qualify for an IPv4 assignment or allocation from ARIN under the IPv4
>> policy currently in effect." To me, that proposal always made the most
>> sense both because it's the easiest for ARIN staff to administer, and
>> because it puts IPv6 on par with IPv4 in all the ways that matter.
> Yes, the fact that IPv4 is a big mess and now IPv6 gets the chance to 
> become one as well is very sensible. Never mind all the work in the IETF 
> to come up with something that works better in the long run.

It doesn't matter how elegant a design is if not one actually wants to
deploy it. For the most part, the very people whose interests you claim to
be protecting have spoken clearly, and said that without PI space IPv6 is a
non-starter. It's well past time that we acknowledged this, and moved on.

> But why am I complaining, I don't have to pay for those bigger routers.

You do actually, even if it's indirectly via higher fees, etc. But, that's
the cost of progress. Would I like to live in the pie in the sky world where
we could freeze the size of the routing table, and no new protocol would
ever require router upgrades? Sure! Sign me up! But the problem is, we don't
live in that world.

I realize that this is not necessarily a popular view, but I do think it's a
realistic one. I want to see IPv6 deployed, and more than that, I think it's
crucial to the growth of the network. But if the choices are, "Only adopt v6
in a manner that is stylistically pure," or "Adopt v6 in a manner that fits
the existing business models which make the net work," don't hold your
breath waiting to figure out which one I'll choose.

David Conrad wrote:

> Yeah, it's nice that ISPs will eat the cost of the router upgrades.

Yep, just like they have since the beginning. It's this little thing called
progress ...

movin' right along,


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