The IPv6 Day: Bye 6Bone. Hi, IPv6 !

Tue Jun 6 17:23:23 CEST 2006

finishing the dicksizing contest...

probably if i was in Madrid with the same kind of infrastructure the  
latencies would be lower, because the proximity to some major  
Internet Hubs (London, Paris, Amsterdam, etc...)

traceroute to www.ietf.org (2001:503:c779:b::d1ad:35b4) from  
2001:b18::20f:1fff:fef7:6e72, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets
1  ge-1.Edge1.ip6.Lisbon.NFSi.pt (2001:b18::ffff)  0.419 ms  0.356  
ms  0.395 ms
2  2001:b18:0:3::3 (2001:b18:0:3::3)  27.433 ms  32.349 ms  32.358 ms
3  2001:7f8:4:1::31f9:2 (2001:7f8:4:1::31f9:2)  32.35 ms  32.462 ms   
32.215 ms
4  52.ge0-0.cr2.lhr1.uk.occaid.net (2001:4830:fe:1100::2)  32.493 ms   
32.893 ms  32.638 ms
5  v3323-mpd.cr1.ewr1.us.occaid.net (2001:4830:fe:1010::2)  106.426  
ms  101.803 ms  106.712 ms
6  ge-0-1-0.cr1.iad1.us.occaid.net (2001:4830:ff:f150::2)  113.019  
ms  112.459 ms  107.552 ms
7  neustar-gw.customer.occaid.net (2001:4830:e6::2)  115.77 ms   
116.327 ms  115.891 ms
8  * * *
9  * *

traceroute: Warning: www.ietf.org has multiple addresses; using  
209.173.53.180
traceroute to www.ietf.org (209.173.53.180), 30 hops max, 38 byte  
packets
1  ge130-1000m.cr2.lisboa.nfsi.pt (81.92.200.126)  0.305 ms  0.324  
ms  0.238 ms
2  pos030-2500M.cr1.Lisboa.NFSi.pt (81.92.223.1)  0.614 ms  0.599 ms   
0.364 ms
3  195.219.186.1 (195.219.186.1)  0.238 ms  0.353 ms  0.363 ms
4  if-0-0.mcore3.LHX-London.teleglobe.net (195.219.196.17)  28.164  
ms  28.519 ms  28.038 ms
5  if-7-0.mcore4.NJY-Newark.teleglobe.net (195.219.196.22)  100.291  
ms  100.403 ms  100.292 ms
6  if-5-0.core2.AEQ-Ashburn.teleglobe.net (216.6.63.18)  107.635 ms   
114.641 ms  113.158 ms
7  ix-12-0.core2.AEQ-Ashburn.teleglobe.net (209.58.27.46)  110.533  
ms  111.143 ms  109.411 ms
8  bcs2-so-5-1-0.Washington.savvis.net (206.24.227.66)  111.034 ms   
111.442 ms  109.966 ms
9  acr2-so-0-0-0.Washington.savvis.net (206.24.227.18)  107.941 ms   
106.456 ms acr2-so-1-1-0.washington.savvis.net (204.70.194.117)   
108.469 ms
10  bar5-loopback.Washington.savvis.net (206.24.226.10)  109.749 ms   
106.521 ms  108.536 ms
11  neu-star.Washington.savvis.net (208.173.154.158)  108.759 ms   
110.896 ms  110.534 ms
12  209.173.53.193 (209.173.53.193)  109.657 ms  108.147 ms  107.912 ms
13  * * *

cheers,

On Jun 6, 2006, at 4:14 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:

> Not necessarily true always.
>
> I've much better connectivity to many IPv6 sites than with IPv4.  
> Example
> IETF 151 ms with IPv6, 124 with IPv6.
>
> This is always relative. Of course, it depends on how both ends are
> connected, and this will improve with the time.
>
> For "peer to peer" many times I have better connectivity with end- 
> to-end
> IPv6 (6to4, Teredo), instead of using some intermediate servers  
> with IPv4
> (assuming the usual situation where you are behind a NAT).
>
> Even if that's not the case, I will usually prefer a slightly  
> slower path if
> it allows me end-to-end.
>
> Regards,
> Jordi
>
>
>
>
>> De: Carlos Friacas <cfriacas at fccn.pt>
>> Responder a: <ipv6-ops-bounces 
>> +jordi.palet=consulintel.es at lists.cluenet.de>
>> Fecha: Tue, 6 Jun 2006 15:56:28 +0100 (WEST)
>> Para: <ipv6-ops at lists.cluenet.de>
>> Asunto: Re: The IPv6 Day: Bye 6Bone. Hi, IPv6 !
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>>
>>> You can have a tunnel and still be stable. I don't see the  
>>> problem there.
>>>
>>> Agree that native is better, but being non-for-profit and  
>>> experiments, is
>>> more than enough.
>>>
>>> I even will say that, even if I encourage production services to  
>>> use native
>>> connectivity, I don't see big issues today in using stable tunnels.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jordi
>>
>> I think the keyword here is latency...
>>
>> IMHO, bad tunnels only keep (more) people away from IPv6 -- and  
>> who might
>> be interested in that?!?!?
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> ./Carlos
>> --------------
>>
>>           Wide Area Network (WAN) Workgroup, CMF8-RIPE, CF596-ARIN
>> FCCN - Fundacao para a Computacao Cientifica Nacional  http:// 
>> www.fccn.pt
>>
>>   "Internet is just routes (184902/571), naming (millions) and...  
>> people!"
>
>
>
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