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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D'>Pim’s reply prompted me to actually read the docs on the web site. LANE reinvented on top of IP. RFC 1925 sect 11 strikes again. Will this bridging madness never stop?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D'>Sorry, couldn’t resist<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D'>Ivan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia","serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ipv6-ops-bounces+ipepelnjak=gmail.com@lists.cluenet.de [mailto:ipv6-ops-bounces+ipepelnjak=gmail.com@lists.cluenet.de] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pim van Pelt<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, May 11, 2013 12:27 PM<br><b>To:</b> Max Tulyev<br><b>Cc:</b> ipv6-ops@lists.cluenet.de<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: http://www.6assist.net/ - call for test<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hoi,<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>2013/5/10 Max Tulyev <<a href="mailto:maxtul@netassist.kiev.ua" target="_blank">maxtul@netassist.kiev.ua</a>><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The website of that project is <a href="http://www.6assist.net/" target="_blank">http://www.6assist.net/</a><br>It acts like a virtual media IXP, and anybody have own ASN can join it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As others pointed out, I do not really see the problem you are solving [well, I see it, but I do not agree that the problem exists]. If you look at the larger more established tunnelbrokers, they will invariably all have multiple points of presence, HE / SixXS as two examples. Here, the ISP takes care of the IPv6 network, and the IPv4 endpoint is topologically close. But, I will agree that some localities do not have any reasonable coverage, and in those cases, MPTP may help.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Some questions:<br>- does this infrastructure bridge ethernet to IP (that's what I believe from your website)? I ask because somebody may be interested to use this for IPv4 as well.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- does it support (ethernet / IP) multicast (v4 and/or v6?)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- does it use compression? If it doesn't, then what is your 'shared segment' MTU? Does that work well for you? Note: if you use header compression you can probably easily retrieve the wasted bytes in protocol overhead, and still provide a 1500b MTU.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- I understand that the hub will provide authentication - what is the design for this authentication mechanism?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>- What happens if the hub goes away? Do the clients cache the IPv4 endpoints of their peers, in other words, is transient failure of the hub impacting anything?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Good luck with your project! And please, pretty please, do not recreate the 3ffe::/16 mess!<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>Pim van Pelt <<a href="mailto:pim@ipng.nl">pim@ipng.nl</a>> <br>PBVP1-RIPE - <a href="http://www.ipng.nl/">http://www.ipng.nl/</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>