contact with One & One ?

[Paul Stewart]

Thanks .. I meant to include link to that article - appreciate you doing so :)

We don’t filter ICMPv6 on those servers and the problem we are pretty confident is ECMP related (as per what we learned from the Cloudflare blog) … need to set up some time to look deeper though as internally and on our own servers we’ve never been able to replicate the issue

Cheers,
Paul

> On Oct 14, 2016, at 8:02 AM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es> wrote:
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> The issue here is that customers (the ones that browse the broken web sites), don’t know about MTU, ICMP, etc.
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> So I guess is in your side as the “provider” of the content, who is the interested party in making sure it works for “all” your possible customers.
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> Up to now, every time I’ve seen this problem was just related to ICMPv6 being filtered, as many folks do in IPv4 …
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> By the way, interesting article, I didn’t read it before:
> https://blog.cloudflare.com/path-mtu-discovery-in-practice/
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> Saludos,
> Jordi
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> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: <ipv6-ops-bounces+jordi.palet=consulintel.es at lists.cluenet.de> en nombre de Paul Stewart <paul at paulstewart.org>
> Responder a: <paul at paulstewart.org>
> Fecha: viernes, 14 de octubre de 2016, 13:52
> Para: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike at swm.pp.se>
> CC: <ipv6-ops at lists.cluenet.de>, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>
> Asunto: Re: contact with One & One ?
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>    At $$$job we run quite a bit of dual stack towards customers as an ISP (mainly PPPoE) - our own public website fails the PTB test and quite honestly we’ve never fixed it.  it works for lots of customer/visitors but breaks for others (and they fail back to IPv4) - we thought it was only external tunnel visitors but have found out otherwise… never fully understood what was going on and I keep meaning to look at it .. 
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>    NGINX front ends load balanced via anycast … pretty standard Ubuntu 16.04LTS setup on the server side.  From what I’ve read it seems to be an ECMP related problem like what CloudFlare published a blog about … 
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>    Paul
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>> On Oct 14, 2016, at 7:45 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike at swm.pp.se> wrote:
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>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2016, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
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>>> I think is time to retire happy-eye-balls, it is the only way the people will react to those issues!
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>> Happy eyeballs doesn't solve PMTU blackhole.
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>> So this is actually customer breakage occuring, but I imagine lots of ISPs are actually doing MSS re-write and/or announcing lower than 1500 MTU on the customer LAN, so even if a customer has PPPoE with 1492 MTU, they still won't see this problem.
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>> I have seen swedish authorities websites with same "won't-respond-to-PTB", no answer there either to fault reports.
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>> -- 
>> Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike at swm.pp.se
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