Question about IPAM tools for v6
Alexandru Petrescu
alexandru.petrescu at gmail.com
Fri Jan 31 17:02:53 CET 2014
Messages cités pour référence (si rien alors fin de message) : Le
31/01/2014 16:59, Fernando Gont a écrit :
> On 01/31/2014 12:26 PM, Alexandru Petrescu wrote:
>>> And it's not just the NC. There are implementations that do not limit
>>> the number of addresses they configure, that do not limit the number of
>>> entries in the routing table, etc.
>> There are some different needs with this limitation.
>>
>> It's good to rate-limit a protocol exchange (to avoid dDoS), it's good
>> to limit the size of the buffers (to avoid buffer overflows), but it may
>> be arguable whether to limit the dynamic sizes of the instantiated data
>> structures, especially when facing requirements of scalability - they'd
>> rather be virtually infinite, like in virtual memory.
> This means that the underlying hard limit will hit you in the back.
>
> You should enforce limits that at the very least keeps the system usable.
>
> At the end of the day, at the very least you want to be able to ssh to it.
>
>
>
>> This is not a problem of implementation, it is a problem of unspoken
>> assumption that the subnet prefix is always 64.
> Do you know what they say assumptions? -- "It's the mother of all f* ups".
>
> It's as straightforward as this: whenever you're coding something,
> enforce limits. And set it to a sane default. And allow the admin to
> override it when necessary.
>
>
>> It is unspoken because
>> it is little required (almost none) by RFCs. Similarly as when the
>> router of the link is always the .1.
> That's about sloppy programming.
>
> Train yourself to do the right thing. I do. When I code, I always
> enforce limits. If anything, just pick one, and then tune it.
>
>
>
>> Speaking of scalability - is there any link layer (e.g. Ethernet) that
>> supports 2^64 nodes in the same link? Any deployed such link? I doubt so.
> Scan Google's IPv6 address space, and you'll find one. (scan6 of
> <http://www.si6networks.com/tools/ipv6toolkit> is your friend :-) )
Do you think they have somewhere one single link on which 2^64 nodes
connect simultaneously? (2^64 is a relatively large number, larger than
the current Internet).
Or is it some fake reply?
Alex
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