IPv6 traffic data in Asian networks?

Mon Mar 19 11:26:43 CET 2007

Hi Carlos,

To make it short. Of course if you want to measure only native traffic
that's ok, but is not a real figure about how the deployment is moving on.

The measurements I'm doing aren't biased in the sense that are being done in
a set of web servers NOT related to IPv6, NOT related to telecom, just
regular customers (hosted in dual stack).

Unfortunately I don't have access or know about other sources for that info
(neither in AP or other regions) :-(

Regards,
Jordi

> De: Carlos Friacas <cfriacas at fccn.pt>
> Responder a: <ipv6-ops-bounces+jordi.palet=consulintel.es at lists.cluenet.de>
> Fecha: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 10:03:55 +0000 (WET)
> Para: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>
> CC: <ipv6-ops at lists.cluenet.de>
> Asunto: Re: IPv6 traffic data in Asian networks?
> 
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2007, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> 
>> Hi Carlos,
> 
> Hi Jordi.
> 
> 
>> I think all those measurements are not good, let me explain why.
> 
> My primary focus would be about native and public IPv6 networks, because
> imho that's the best way ahead for global IPv6 deployment. But i know my
> NREN/IXP view is very different from yours. :-)
> 
> 
>> According to my own "experiments" on this field, when you ask for IPv6
>> traffic to ISPs, carriers, IXPs, etc., they are only counting the *native*
>> IPv6.
> 
> Yes, and that data would be the most interesting numbers for me...
> 
> 
>> Today, most of the IPv6 traffic is not native, but transition, at least in
>> the access networks (and it remains as transition traffic unless your ISP
>> has transition boxes such as Teredo and 6to4 relays).
>> 
>> If you measure traffic at end hosts, then you will reach a totally different
>> picture (around 12% from my own measurements). And this is even not totally
>> correct
> 
> If you are measuring only at one site/network (yours), which is often
> referenced as a possibility to check/test IPv6 connectivity, and which is
> mainly publicized to IPv6-aware people, that's probably not a representative
> experience.
> 
> We've added an AAAA for quite a long to our main website, and we don't see
> that type of % (yet, i hope...). Also when we do v4+v6 streaming sessions
> the ratio of v6/v4 connections is very, very low.
> 
> 
>> I've presented "The cost of NOT deploying IPv6" yesterday at the IEPG
>> meeting
>> (http://www.potaroo.net/iepg/march2007/the_cost_of_not_deploying_ipv6_v4.pdf
>> ),
> 
> Thanks, will check it.
> 
> 
>> including some preliminary stats. I plan to have much better stats in a
>> couple of weeks or so. But I thin it is clear that IPv6 traffic is growing
>> and especially with transition (both, 6to4 and Teredo).
> 
> I guess we are not yet seeing much of Vista deployed... ;-)
> 
> I can blame myself about not using Vista yet, although i actively use
> native v6 as a 1st choice with linux and xp. :-)
> 
> 
>> There are several
>> reasons that explain that, such as more and more CPEs that come with 6to4
>> enabled by default, Vista with comes with IPv6 enabled by default (and ore
>> applications making use of it).
> 
> Yes, we'll probably have some bigger numbers in 3-6 months time :-)
> 
> But, returning to the subject... can you point me to some data/graphs
> about IPv6-enabled Asian networks you by any chance have laid your eyes
> lately???
> 
> Best Regards,
> Carlos
> 
> 
> 
>> Regards,
>> Jordi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> De: Carlos Friacas <cfriacas at fccn.pt>
>>> Responder a: <ipv6-ops-bounces+jordi.palet=consulintel.es at lists.cluenet.de>
>>> Fecha: Mon, 19 Mar 2007 09:05:02 +0000 (WET)
>>> Para: <ipv6-ops at lists.cluenet.de>
>>> Asunto: IPv6 traffic data in Asian networks?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> I'm currently looking for IPv6 traffic data/graphs regarding Asian
>>> networks.
>>> 
>>> Already skimmed through several Asian Internet Exchanges' websites, but no
>>> luck so far. :-(
>>> 
>>> As a counterpoint regarding Europe, last year I saw a presentation from
>>> AMS-IX about sFLOW which referenced a 0.2% IPv6 traffic figure over the
>>> exchange. But together with some NRENs data it's also the only IPv6
>>> traffic data from European networks i'm aware of...
>>> 
>>> Any URLs/comments about this welcomed :-)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
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