IPv6 ingress filtering

Marc Blanchet marc.blanchet at viagenie.ca
Tue May 14 18:14:00 CEST 2019



On 14 May 2019, at 11:50, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:

> Hi Marc,
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> I don’t agree. There are many users with tunnel brokers that use 
> 6in4. If you filter 6to4 as a protocol, you’re also filtering all 
> those users’ traffic.

no. if you filter 2002::/16 on the IPv6 side, you are not filtering 
tunnel broker users.


Marc (who did implement and make it available a tunnel broker for years)

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> Not everybody is lucky enough to have native IPv6 support from its 
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> Saludos,
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> Jordi
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> El 14/5/19 17:46, "Marc Blanchet" 
> <ipv6-ops-bounces+jordi.palet=consulintel.es at lists.cluenet.de en 
> nombre de marc.blanchet at viagenie.ca> escribió:
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> 6to4 has been a good transition technology to help deploy IPv6 in the 
> early days. However, it has intrinsically bad latency issues as its 
> routing is based on the underlying IPv4, which can be pretty bad for 
> non 6to4 destinations (e.g. normal IPv6 addresses). Moreover, its IPv6 
> in IPv4 tunnelling technology is likely to be filtered by various 
> intermediate devices in the path. My take is that we shall declare 
> 6to4 over and dead, thank you very much for your service. So I would 
> suggest to filter it. If not, users may get latency issues that will 
> go into support calls unncessarily.
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> Marc.
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> On 14 May 2019, at 11:24, Amos Rosenboim wrote:
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> Hello,
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> As we are trying to tighten the security for IPv6 traffic in our 
> network, I was looking for a reference IPv6 ingress filter.
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> I came up with Job Snijders suggestion (thank you Job) that can be 
> conveniently found at whois -h whois.ripe.net fltr-martian-v6
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> After applying the filter I noticed some traffic from 6to4 addresses 
> (2002::/16) to our native IPv6 prefixes (residential users in this 
> case).
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> The traffic is a mix of both UDP and TCP but all on high port numbers 
> on both destination and source.
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> It seems to me like some P2P traffic, but I really can’t tell.
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> This got me thinking, why should we filter these addresses at all ?
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> I know 6to4 is mostly dead, but is it inherently bad ?
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> And if so, why is the prefix (2002::/16) still being routed ?
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> Thanks,
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> Amos Rosenboim
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