UPnP/IPv6 support in home routers?

Fernando Gont fernando at gont.com.ar
Mon Dec 11 22:15:30 CET 2017

Operationally, you can deploy a firewall, but have no say in the poor
software development practices of your IoT vendor.
Compartmentalization -- yes, within the compartment, the IoT devices can
kill each other. :-)  If the compartment granularity is not fine enough,
improve it.

P.S.: Yes, I'd like secure IoT devices. I would also like to erradicate
poverty and other things...


On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 6:09 PM, Pete Mundy <pete at fiberphone.co.nz> wrote:

> But the FW doesn't (can't) protect the IoT device from other malicious IoT
> devices sharing the local network behind the firewall.
> Isn't it better to forego the boarder firewall completely and make
> implementing that service the responsibility of each host for itself?
> Pete
> > On 12/12/2017, at 10:00 AM, Fernando Gont <fernando at gont.com.ar> wrote:
> >
> > The crap doesn't get fixed because that's the software development we
> are used to. Windows 10 was Windows '95 in the '90s. So give the IoT stuff
> 15-20 years to get to a sensible quality/state/security and/or enough
> widespread trouble/exploitation.
> >
> > Pragmatically speaking, people will connect that crap to the 'net... and
> the "less connected" such devices are, the better.
> > So, please, don't remove FWs. :-)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Fernando

Fernando Gont
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