6to4 status (again)

Lorenzo Colitti lorenzo at google.com
Tue Feb 26 05:52:25 CET 2013


Funny how perspective changes things eh :-) You think of it as "bypassing
NAT and DPI", but the users of those applications probably think of it
"end-to-end connectivity".


On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke at cisco.com>wrote:

> So, it looks like BitTorrent traffic from non native ipv6 to non native
> ipv6... Just to bypass NAT and DPI...
>
> Sigh...
>
>
>
>
> Le 25 févr. 2013 à 19:39, "Shin SHIRAHATA" <shin at tokyo6to4.net> a écrit :
>
> > Hello Kevin,
> >
> >> We run one of the public 6to4 relays. Lately traffic to it has been
> growing very rapidly and I'm really not sure why. Other people shutting
> their public relays down? More AAAA records are making more people fall
> back to 6to4? Idiots using it for DDoS?
> >
> > We, Tokyo6to4 had shutdown our 6to4/Teredo public relay router in AS38646
> > and AS55374 in last September. Because commercial IPv6 services are
> became
> > available in Japan since 2011.
> >
> > The total amount of traffic level was around 100Mbps.
> >
> >> For most of 2012 the usage averaged about 50-100mbps, but lately we're
> seeing sustained levels of 500mbps-900mbps. I'd rather not deploy 10GE on
> our 6to4 box just to handle the traffic growth.
> >>
> >> Has anyone here looked at public 6to4 usage recently and seen similar
> trends?
> >>
> >> Part of me is thinking we should just rate limit the box to something
> more reasonable. While it's still running, it'll be slow enough that
> hopefully people will move to a better transitional technology. My fear is
> that it will cause more "v6 sucks, it's so slow" and people shut it off
> without looking at why.
> >
> > in our observation, 50-80% of traffic in 6to4 relay is {coming from,
> > going to} Teredo.
> >
> > I think there is a reason to implement rate limit to these traffic
>  (6to4-
> > Teredo)  before limiting whole traffic. Logically, it should be reachable
> > without 6to4 relay since the nature of the traffic is IPv4-IPv4 traffic.
> >
> > ---
> > No caffeine, No work.
> > Shin SHIRAHATA <shin at shirahata.name> / <true at sfc.wide.ad.jp>
> > http://www.sfc.wide.ad.jp/~true/
> >
>
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