Current Consensus on IPv6 Customer Allocation Size

Eric Vyncke (evyncke) evyncke at cisco.com
Sat Sep 1 08:00:10 CEST 2012


This is work in progress at the IETF: homenet working group. A lot of interesting ideas to have a multi-homed set of IPV6 networks, handling security & naming & service discovery.

All of this for 'Uncle Joe' who has no clue about what a DMZ is ;-)

-éric

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipv6-ops-bounces+evyncke=cisco.com at lists.cluenet.de [mailto:ipv6-ops-
> bounces+evyncke=cisco.com at lists.cluenet.de] On Behalf Of David Farmer
> Sent: vendredi 31 août 2012 21:44
> To: James Cloos
> Cc: David Farmer; Tim Densmore; Chris Grundemann; IPv6 operators forum;
> Mark Blackman
> Subject: Re: Current Consensus on IPv6 Customer Allocation Size
> 
> The reall issue isn't how many subnets, and your right no one wants to
> manage them.
> 
> So, If we can agree there is some likely hood of more than one subnet, then
> the question is how many bit do you need for a algorithmic allocation
> scheme for the devices to automatically pick their subnets.
> Eight bits is more than enough for a human to manage putting all the
> subnets of almost any house in.  But, we just said no one want to manage
> it.  So eight bits is kind of small for algorithmic scheme that would cover
> +95% of the possibilities.  Its a lot tougher problem than most people
> relise, it doesn't seem like it should be but it is.  There is a lot just
> wired into our brains, that makes it easy for a human to adapt to the
> conditions, but algorithmic approches frequently aren't all that adaptable.
> 
> 
> On 8/31/12 14:10 CDT, James Cloos wrote:
> >>>>>> "MB" == Mark Blackman <mark at exonetric.com> writes:
> >
> > MB> More than 256 subnets in the home? Who would want to manage all of
> that?
> >
> > Don't be surprized to see (ether-)? peripheral lans hanging off
> > general-purpose boxen, each needing its own /64.
> >
> > We also may end up with clusters-in-a-box replacing existing nodes;
> > they'll need /64s for their internal lans.
> >
> > Virtual lans, conencting VMs w/in a node, could consume /64s, too.
> >
> > 65536 may be extreme, but I certainly see 257+ showing up.
> >
> > -JimC
> >
> 
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