OT: cheap colo space in Southern Germany/Munich

Jens Weibler jens.weibler at h-da.de
Sat Nov 24 15:56:05 CET 2012

On 11/24/2012 03:37 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2012, Eugen Leitl wrote:
>> You disagree that killing BGP and AS# and allow end user operated 
>> infrastructure is scratching a real itch?
> How would that work in real life? Is there an IETF draft that 
> describes how it's supposed to work?

I agree Mikael.. It was an interessting discussion (and quite funny) but 
we should get back to topic.
If you want other concepts of address allocation you are free to write a 
draft. IPv6 has enough space for these kinds for experiments ;)

I'm sure that some companies oder universities will give back parts for 
their ip space but this doesn't scale.
Sure - I've got a few /24 as reserve at my faculty, but giving it back 
is nearly impossible. And I'm lucky that I have that reserve: more and 
more clients are using wireless (I don't want NAT), I get projects like 
BigData on my desk and so on..

The only way is ipv6 and as Gert said "lots of pains, costs and tears" 
will await those who aren't ready for ipv6.
Hetzner might be one of the first but many companies will get to this 
problem and IPv4 will get expensive. Maybe this way we get the pressure 
(or "business value") needed for a fast(er) IPv6 migration.

Jens Weibler

Hochschule Darmstadt
University of Applied Sciences

Fachbereich Informatik
Schöfferstr. 8b
D-64295 Darmstadt
Tel +49 6151 16-8425
Fax +49 6151 16-8935
jens.weibler at h-da.de

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