ipv6-ops Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1

Bill Cerveny cerveny at internet2.edu
Wed Jan 4 15:03:52 CET 2006


Bernhard,

We've been working on transit service for some time and we're finalizing a 
contract this week for service that should improve connectivity to Abilene 
via commercial IPv6 providers.

Bill Cerveny
Abilene / Internet2

--On Wednesday, January 04, 2006 12:00 PM +0100 
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>    1. Wanted: Abilene Connectivity (Bernhard Schmidt)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 02:28:15 +0100
> From: Bernhard Schmidt <berni at birkenwald.de>
> Subject: Wanted: Abilene Connectivity
> To: ipv6-ops at lists.cluenet.de
> Message-ID: <43BB24AF.9090802 at birkenwald.de>
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> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm seeing heavy problems connecting to anything within Abilene's IPv6
> prefix from well-connected networks lately (well, for several months now)
>
> a) 29259 8767 3549 6939 293 11537
>
> traceroute to hammer.uoregon.edu (2001:468:d01:dc::80df:dc1d) from
> 2001:1b10:100::1:1, 30 hops max, 16 byte packets
>  1  backbone2-gige-0-1-16.teleport-iabg.de (2001:1b10:100:4::12)  0.341 ms
>  2  fe-0-2-2.rt7.muc3.m-online.net (2001:a60:0:201::1:1)  9.593 ms
>  3  so-1-2-0.rt9.muc1.m-online.net (2001:a60:0:100::1)  1.991 ms
>  4  ge-1-1-0.408.ar1.FRA2.gblx.net (2001:a60:0:1ff::2)  13.809 ms
>  5  2001:450:2001:1000:0:670:1708:219
> (2001:450:2001:1000:0:670:1708:219)  172.887 ms
>  6  *
>  7  *
>  8  *
>  9  *
>
> Dies at GBLX->HE, various guys in IRC have confirmed the same. Since
> other 3549 6939 !293 paths work it might be a problem between HE and
> ES.net. But
>
> b) 29259 286 1273 6830 6830 6830 6830 6939 293 11537
>
>  1  backbone2-gige-0-1-16.teleport-iabg.de (2001:1b10:100:4::12)  0.673 ms
>  2  mchn-s2-rou-1030.DE.eurorings.net (2001:680:0:8008::2)  2.546 ms
>  3  ge-0-1-0-gar1.muc.cw.net (2001:5001:100:15::1)  2.518 ms
>  4  ge-0-0-0-200-zcr2.muc.cw.net (2001:5000:0:4::2)  3.461 ms
>  5  as0-bcr2.fra.cw.net (2001:5000:0:5::1)  13.002 ms
>  6  so-1-2-0-dcr2.fra.cw.net (2001:5000:0:f::1)  14.8 ms
>  7  so-4-0-0-dcr1.amd.cw.net (2001:5000:0:e::2)  21.82 ms
>  8  so-4-0-0-bcr1.amd.cw.net (2001:5000:0:10::2)  22.159 ms
>  9  so-3-0-0-zcr1.amt.cw.net (2001:5000:0:12::2)  22.477 ms
> 10  nl-ams04a-re1-fe-0-0.ipv6.aorta.net (2001:7f8:1::a500:6830:1)  26.293
> ms 11  nl-ams06d-re1-t-2.ipv6.aorta.net (2001:730::1:c)  29.711 ms
> 12  hurrican.net-gw1.nl.ipv6.aorta.net (2001:730::1:2f)  181.936 ms
> 13  3ffe:81d0:ffff:1::1 (3ffe:81d0:ffff:1::1)  182.213 ms
> 14  3ffe:80a::a (3ffe:80a::a)  290.199 ms
> 15  snvrt1-paixpav6r1.es.net (2001:400:0:50::1)  290.679 ms
> 16  2001:468:ff:17c3::1 (2001:468:ff:17c3::1)  289.534 ms
> 17  oregon-snvang.abilene.ucaid.edu (2001:468:ff:174d::2)  303.009 ms
> 18  2001:468:d00:a390::3 (2001:468:d00:a390::3)  303.619 ms
> 19  ge-5-1.uonet1-gw.uoregon.edu (2001:468:d01:2::1)  302.761 ms
> 20  hammer.ipv6.uoregon.edu (2001:468:d01:dc::80df:dc1d)  302.923 ms
>
> works, although it shares 6939 293. Different peering between HE and
> ES.net due to different ingress interfaces?
>
> c) no as-path, but a trace from my colo-box:
>
>  2  2001:1b18:f:16::1 (2001:1b18:f:16::1)  7.652 ms
>  3  decix1.ipv6.eurotransit.net (2001:7f8::73f6:0:1)  7.576 ms
>  4  so-2-0-0.pr1.k90.fra.de.v6.eurotransit.net (2001:1bc0::ffff:ffff:11)
>  8.015 ms
>  5  Ge7-0-1.FFTCR2.Frankfurt.opentransit.net (2001:688:0:3:7::9)  26.334
> ms  6  Po11-0.FFTCR3.Frankfurt.opentransit.net (2001:688:0:2:1::1)  8.307
> ms  7  Po10-0.AUVCR2.Aubervilliers.opentransit.net (2001:688:0:2:1::19)
> 21.398 ms
>  8  Po6-0.NYKCR2.New-york.opentransit.net (2001:688:0:2:8::2)  98.568 ms
>  9  Po13-0.CHICR2.Chicago.opentransit.net (2001:688:0:2:1::e)  117.566 ms
> 10  Abilene-1-ipv6.GW.opentransit.net (2001:688:0:4::19)  280.154 ms
> 11  iplsng-chinng.abilene.ucaid.edu (2001:468:ff:f12::2)  280.058 ms
> 12  kscyng-iplsng.abilene.ucaid.edu (2001:468:ff:1213::2)  291.715 ms
> 13  dnvrng-kscyng.abilene.ucaid.edu (2001:468:ff:1013::1)  287.211 ms
> 14  snvang-dnvrng.abilene.ucaid.edu (2001:468:ff:1017::2)  280.023 ms
> 15  oregon-snvang.abilene.ucaid.edu (2001:468:ff:174d::2)  296.637 ms
> 16  2001:468:d00:a390::3 (2001:468:d00:a390::3)  293.08 ms
> 17  ge-5-1.uonet1-gw.uoregon.edu (2001:468:d01:2::1)  294.428 ms
> 18  hammer.ipv6.uoregon.edu (2001:468:d01:dc::80df:dc1d)  292.173 ms
>
> okay, latency sucks (so probably the path back goes through Asia), but
> at least we get there through a more or less sane path.
>
> I've seen reports of _well-connected networks_ having no less than 600ms
> to various Abilene hosts (hammer.uoregon.edu tested, but they all share
> the same pain). It used to be better, I remember using both C&W and GBLX
> direct peerings with Abilene, can anyone say what happened to them? The
> overview of the paths to the abilene prefix in grh.sixxs.net looks
> hillariously broken, with ASes filtered for having a crappy routing
> policy (like HE.net) or Asian ASes like 2500 and 4725 all over the
> place. A small collection
>
> 29670 12732 20646 1752 1299 3320 5511 11537 i
> 24875 9009 3257 2497 2500 4725 11537 i
> 12779 6175 6830 6830 6830 6939 293 11537 i
>
> The only point where I do get good latency is the german NREN connected
> to GEANT, who have a direct "something" with Abilene. Anyone else having
> the same issues? Is this intended or is something broken here?
>
> Regards,
> Bernhard
>
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